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"I’m very open about being Christopagan. Especially on my tumblr that is devoted specifically to my personal path. I posted something about Holy Week today, and this is nowhere near the first time I’ve mentioned going to church, being Christopagan, or celebrating Catholic holy days. I’ve mentioned multiple times that I pray the rosary, and have Mother Mary as one of my matrons (Sekhmet being the other). And this time for whatever reason, I had an angry message in my inbox from someone unfollowing me for “posting something christian”! I do not understand hate towards any faith. It really dissapoints me when fellow pagans feel this way, and it always takes a lot for me not to get angry at them. Clearly they haven’t read anything I’ve written on there so I’m not exactly losing a real follower anyway. But my goodness, I constantly hear pagans saying they want Christians to stop being so hateful towards Pagans and to respect us, but how can we ever acheive that when we have people reacting this way? The threefold law, the golden rule, in the end it all adds up to the same thing! If you want to be treated as a real valid religion and have respect, give it! There are MANY witches and pagans that incorporate abrahamic faiths into their path, we are a valid part of the pagan community and I wish people understood that!" Hey all here’s my confession to Pagan Confessions! (Update 4/22/15: this got a LOT of both positive comments, and also plenty of hateful comments that proved my point exactly. I'm not going to archive all my responses to them, but you can view all of them in the notes on my original reblog here: http://practical-magick.tumblr.com/post/20510869709/pagan-confessions-im-very-open-about-being The Pagan Confessions blog no longer exists). I really enjoyed your reply to my last question, thank you for answering. I was curious about how you believe jesus went to france with his wife and mother? How did you come across that? -- AnonI honestly first read it in a Sylvia Browne book titled The Two Marys. I know, plenty of people are going to laugh about saying I read it there. But I’ve actually seen it in other places as well. It is known in many groups (though I don’t know how for sure, I’m still doing my own research) that Mary Magdalene went to France following the crucifixion of Jesus and that she was accompanied by a young girl named Sara. Also, the area of France she was believed to go to (again, I cannot remember the name of the town/region, so sorry!) had a deep devotion to both Mary Magdalene and Mother Mary herself. As for as how Jesus may have been able to have even survived: According to Sylvia, they placed him in the tomb to recover, not as an actual tomb. See, when you are crucified (for anyone that may not know) you essentially die from suffocation. Especially if the type of cross used was the shape generally portrayed by Christians (normal crosses used by Romans was a simple T shape), then this would have taken a very long time, hence the reason they attempted to spear him. But it’s very likely that the spearing wasn’t very deep nor a fatal wound, and considering when he was even placed on the cross, it’s not likely he would have even had time to die. It can take days for someone to die from being crucified, and according to law at them time, he had to be taken down BEFORE the sabbath. Assuming he was placed on the cross on a Friday (as is generally believed) it’s simply not enough time! So many people (or maybe only Sylvia and me) seem to believe he was placed in the tomb to recover and that Magdalene was going to the tomb to attend to his wounds, leading to shock when he wasn’t there. Also, if he were a spirit, why would he have to appear to the Magdalene in a guise (I believe he was dressed as a gardner or something similar). Likewise, when he appeared to the other apostles, he still had the wounds. If he had ascended to Heaven, why would he have wounds at all? Many people cite that he told the apostles he was going to Heaven following his visit with them, but an interesting fact is that there was a center of wisdom at the time called Heaven and it’s believed by some Gnostics that he may have been referring to it, and that Magdalene became pregnant while they stayed there, and that they stayed there for, I think, about 7 years. According to Sylvia, Mother Mary was also a psychic and healer and had taught this to Magdalene and Sara (Magdalene actually may have lived with her for a time while Jesus was a way and may actually have known her since she was a child as the Magdalene’s family apparently was descended from David and thus high status). I don’t know how true that is. But that’s the version she presents in her book. I have read similar things elsewhere, but I do not remember the sources. I actually want to research it as best I can myself, but my “gut instinct” says its correct. I have really strong intuition. I’m fairly sure it’s a perspective on events only believed by Gnostic Christians, some Christopagans, and those trying to discredit Christianity, but I could be wrong. :)
How does christo-paganism work? I've always seen them as conflicting religions, but have never met a christo-pagan to ask. --AnonIt all depends on the individual. It’s honestly a spectrum. My definition of Christopaganism is anyone who blends Pagan and Christian spiritualities. This includes Pagans that include anything Christian, such as perhaps the rosary, in their practice or still regularly attend a Christian Church, to Christians that worship in a pagan fashion, perhaps in a circle and calling the archangels for the quarters. There’s also everyone in between, like myself. I would say I am Pagan first, Christian second. My primary deities reside in the Greek Pantheon, but my patrons are Sekhmet and Mother Mary. This wasn’t a path I decided to go down on purpose, it just sort of happened. I tend not to take the Bible as fact, but even in light of that, I believe most of the Old Testament no longer applies, and that’s where most of the anti-pagan propaganda is. I tend to ascribe more to Gnostic lines of thought, such as God had a wife and that Jesus married Mary Magdalene, didn’t die on the cross, and instead traveled to France with his wife and mother. Also, I prefer the Catholic church over protestant Churches, because of their devotion to Mary and honoring of the saints. As someone devoted to Mother Mary, I often pray to her, say the rosary, (I even rewrote the entire rosary once for Wiccans!), and I incorporate her into my altar. I have a madonna statue and an Our Lady of Guadeloupe candle on my altar. I have a special relationship with Mary as the Virgin of Guadeloupe, because she appeared hundreds of years ago on what is now my birthday. Also, when I moved home after an especially nasty break up I found a virgin of Guadeloupe bead from a saint bracelet randomly sitting on my parent’s front porch. To me it was a clear omen that things were about to start looking up. I also regularly attend both a Baptist (with my grandmother and great-grandmother) and a Catholic church (usually alone). The way it works all depends on the individual’s perspective. I think a brilliant example of Christopaganism (though people of these faiths wouldn’t describe themselves as such) are Voodoo and Santeria. They blend African native religion with Catholicism, they have figured out which saints correspond to their orishas/lwa, etc. Even Celtic Christianity in Ireland blended in old Pagan practices and perspectives on nature with the new Christian beliefs. It’s certainly not a new practice.
I have, will, and do post Christian things, right along with Pagan things, although 90% of this blog is about the pagan half of my spirituality. I have never hidden this, or refrained to mention it. Anyone who actually reads the things I write here, would know this. Am I angry? You bet. But at the same time I’m somewhat glad they decided to unfollow me as I will not tolerate hatred and prejudice towards anyone’s faith here, let alone my own. This is Holy Week in the Catholic Church, and it is very important to me. I love Easter! And I don’t feel I should have to refrain from expressing my entire path here. The whole point of this blog is as an expression of my path! So if anyone else is offended by my posting Christian things here, feel free to unfollow me. But do so in a respectful manner, without hateful, prejudiced messages in my inbox. I am very thankful for all of my followers, but I don’t think anyone should have things pop up on their dash that makes them uncomfortable. But at the same time I expect the same amount of respect from all of you as I give to all of you. Karma. What goes around comes around. The three fold law. Do unto others and you would have them do unto you. Many ways of saying essentially the same thing, and I’m a huge believer in it.
I hope you all have an awesome week. I know I STILL haven’t posted the first Herbal Wednesday, but I’m hoping to accomplish it tomorrow morning, along with the Pagan Blog Post I missed on Friday. :) Blessed Be, Ella I’ve never converesed with Loki, but I had a really incredible relationship with Lucifer (NOT Satan/Samael, they are honestly two separate angels. Lucifer fell, Satan descended) when I was in middle school, just barely getting into paganism, didn’t even realize my beliefs had a name yet. I later ran away and began to ingnore him because of the whole “I’m not a satanist, I’m wiccan” mindset. Now that I realize he’d told me the truth all along, that he was not satan, not the devil, I feel the need to try to get that relationship back. Unfortunately, gods and angels contact you in their way on their time, not just because you demand they do.
Seriously? You just posted something Christian? Fuck that shit. UNFOLLOWING. -- scum-angel-deactivated20131213Feel free to unfollow. That’s your prerogative. I’ve stated time and time again, that I do agree with many Christian things. One of my matrons is actually Mother Mary, and I attend church with my grandmother most sundays, even though I don’t always agree with what is being said. So thank you for being prejudice. All faiths are welcome here, and it’s kinda my blog and I’m kinda allowed to post whatever describes my path.
Oh goodness. There was a girl and her “coven” going around harassing some Christopagans and Christian Witches with that one. I wanted to smack them. It was bad. They were honestly threatening people. For so called “wiccans” they broke nearly all the rules they were spouting. I kinda wish they’d come around my blog. Could get real interesting.
(The blog this was originally from has completely disappeared. If anyone remembers it's name, let me know so I can credit the image). Welcome to April!!!
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